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to china and get the cheapest labor possible. now you have workers in the united states saying this is what we need. if you look at the dock workers, dock workers in the 1960's, about 35, 40,000. now down to 4,000. only 10%. why? because of automation your previous guest was talk. >> 64,000 for the longshoreman's union. but haven't unions priced themself out of market? they made themself obsolete. you pointed out, if you don't want to do business here, go to china. >> here's the deal, you have to import goods in the united states. what they've done is through automation, they have less and less dock workers. what the dock workers got as a concession was you have to give us a royalty on shipments given you're using automation. no you have owners of dock yards saying no, we're going to take that away or freeze it for people who come later. >> but why do you want to freeze business? why stick business in the mud right now so we can't progress? i'll give you a personal example. i was a floor trader, a human being on a trading floor. guess what happened? they figured out machines could do it bet
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